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    Posted: 26 October 2005 at 10:08am

AUXILLARY NURSING

Auxillary nursing is a rewarding carer in its own right and it can also provide a spring board for those of you that would like to undertake a carer as a registered nurse. Entry in to the job is based upon commitment and suitablity for the role. On this page you will find information on becoming an Auxillary Nurse and what Auxillary nursing is all about.

AUXILIARY NURSES / Healthcare Assistants

Working as a Health Care Assistant

Health Care Assistants can work within hospital or community settings under the supervision of a qualified Healthcare Practioner.

The role can be very varied depending upon the area in which you are employed.

Working alongside Nurses, for example, you will be known as a Healthcare Assistant, Nursing Auxiliary or Auxiliary Nurses.

The types of duties include the following:

  • Washing and dressing
  • Feeding
  • Helping people to mobilise
  • Toileting
  • Bed making
  • Generally assisting with patients overall comfort
  • Monitoring patients conditions by taking temperatures, pulse, respiration's and weight

How to become an Auxiliary Nurse

Health Care Assistants and Auxiliary Nurses may have the opportunity to obtain an NVQ qualification in care up to Level 3.

Often, obtaining NVQ Level 2 will lead to the person having more responsibility in terms of the role they are fulfilling.

An NVQ Level 3 will meet the minimum entry requirements for entry into nurse training at a university

Auxillary Nurse Training

Training to become an auxillary nurse usually takes place in an education establishment such as a Further Education college.

As a healthcare assistant you will be able to attain an NVQ level 3 once you passed all of the exams. When complete you will be able to join a university or college to under take formal nurse training so that you can then become a registered nurse.

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  Quote rickday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2005 at 7:09pm
That's how I got my place at Uni, I feel that the best nurses have been auxiliaries first, just my opinion, but a few coleagues agree
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  Quote Lulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 November 2005 at 12:52am
i disagree not all good nurses were auxillaries first... some good nurses were and some bad nurses werte jusdt like some good nurses worked in a shop or a bakers or came straight from school... for an evidence based profession thats a very genaralised statement that a lot of good nurses who werent auxillaries would object to myself included.
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  Quote karen59 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 November 2005 at 8:29am

I think life experience can influence how a nurse turns out, helps determine their character. Number of things contribute, but determination, motivation, support, interest all helps... dont think any one view expressed is right or wrong, everyone sees different things influence standards of nurses.

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  Quote rickday Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 November 2005 at 8:27pm

As I said just my opinion, were you not an auxiliary then Lulu?

I have to agree that good nurses can come from any background, butcher, baker..you know the rest, but I stand by my statement in my opinion the nurses I know that have been auxilliaries are better nurses, the reason being they can understand what we are going through, what we have to put up with day in day out, doing the tasks that basically they can't be arsed to do, so as I said as much as it rocks the boat & upsets folks I stand by my statement 

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  Quote linda26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2005 at 7:30pm

good for you rickday.  we are all entitled to our opinions.

 Me personally i started out as an auxillary/ carer/ health support woirker whatever you want to say. my dream was to work as a nurse.  It doesnt matter personally what  back ground you have had or what training the thing is you can either care or you cant.

If its not meant to be then you soon find out.  Not in the first day buit propbably after a year or two years.  I now carers and nurses who have been carer or nurses for 20 year then decide they have had enough.  They was excellant carer nurses. 

At the end of the day, and i know that isnt what we are doing on here. BUt we shouldnt be saying about better nurses etc.  Every nurse or carer i have worked with work to the best of their ability.  It might not be up to your scratch but  as long as they are doing the job, looking after the resident/ patient to the best of their ability and not putting the patient at risk .  That is what matters, not what background you have or what training.

I worked with a nurse who started out in life living on the street.  he has no backgro9und in caring. BUT he went to college with goverment grants, got brill grades then went on to nursing college.  He is now going for being a nursing manager at the hospital where he works. 

So i suppose rickday and whoever else. I have gone against your opinion in some way.  I do agree with what you say but i also agree with the others.

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  Quote karen59 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 November 2005 at 9:55pm
I think its great that we are all giving our views and listening to others, we may not always agree but topics like this get us thinking which is very healthy, heaven knows my brain needs stimulating at times. Don't want it to go stale. karen
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  Quote IdahoDennis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 November 2005 at 3:42am

On this side of the pond we have, CNA, certified nurse assistants, tehn with training you can become a CAP, clinical assistive personnel. The CAPS draw blood, do EKG's (DO NOT READ THEM!), vital signs, apply dressings, hold for suturing or casting(nurses can cast or suture, but NOT in my hospital), and do all the things your auxilary do.

I think its a great training place, we look at them, as most are in school to be nurses or are trying to get into a program. We do hire CAPS who graduate  nursing as a nurse. It has been wonderful.

 

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  Quote linda26 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 November 2005 at 9:02pm

do other carers feel they have been treated as nurses without the pay. as a care assistant i have been trained to do venepuncture, take blood pressures, bms, give medication, i have given insulin through training, had to give controlled drugs (obviously two people checks).  left in charge of the floor i am workinng on, helping to train other new members of staff.  I can read ecg's and also do all the paperwork included. I have also been trained to do dressings for all different things including pressure sores.  So to some extent, alot of things nurses do.  But at the end of the day i cannot work as a nurse because of what my specialist advices.  I started out working in office work when i left school but i have worked my way up.

Do any of you feel that you cant get any further.  I want to but am having to go into the senior or deputy roles instead of the nursing.  Do any of you though feel that you are given extra duties beyojjnd what we are supposed to do within our job title.  



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i have worked with some excellent nurses who never worked in the caring professions before nursing and iv worked with some dreadful nurses who did... i think its  down more to the personality, commitment and compassion of the individual than what job they did before they trained.

there are lots of customer contact jobs which give people just as valuable communication and caring skills as they get as an NA.

i have also met some excellent NAs who would make excellent nurses and some absolutely crap ones that you wished with all your heart hadnt opted for this career choice.

i also realise that now  a lot of unis are placing emphasis on existing training... not becuase they feel they will make better nurses... but be cause they feel that if they had prior experience they wouldnt be so likely to drop out becuase of the culture shock, jhowever i have found that a lot of ex NAs are really demoralised at the beginning of the course because they find that they are doing their old job but with added studying and no finanacial benefits.




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  Quote Modette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 February 2006 at 8:57pm
Just read topic heading and all the reply's since Lulu's post on November 2005,

I have no prior experience in the health care system as a HCA or otherwise and I left school in 1985 with just my 'O' levels or 'GCSEs' as they are called now.  However I have 3 children and a past!  Life experience has been underestimated in the past and to be truthful, if I had undergone this nurse education back then I would have dropped out!

There is a lot to be said of the young people who commit to a caring profession and who, by all accounts come from different walks or backgrounds in life.

For all of you who are young and do not have this experience, but have been blessed with a good brain and good grades in your school exams deserve the opportunity to do well in a nursing future!

Young people are allways an inspiration to me and I as an adult learning student am always surprised at the knowledge I am learning now and how much I need still to learn!

I hope you young folk, especially the less affluent or those who have had severe difficulties in your home life, have the strength and stamina to think beyond the past life you may have had and aspire towards 'getting out of your situation' and helping others, whom like yourself have suffered because of no fault of your own!

There are many people who know that there is better things ahead of them, but do not recognise it within themselves!

The government recognises the shortage of nurses in England and that is why they offer money for all that choose to train in such a profession!

You do not need to be a genius to become a nurse, only the apptitude to better yourself and a goal to help others!

There are several different branches in nursing, all as equally as hard as each other, however you may choose to follow the path that you feel needs your thinking and skills to improve the wellbeing of others.

This thinking, usually arrising from a bad experience you have had yourself and wanting to change the way things are, or an experience you have been through about someone close to you, whom you love!

Some have said nursing is a science as well as an art!

What do you think?

On this very solemn note, I would like to post that nursing is hard, but very satisfying if you look for the positive things that make it all the worthwhile!!!!!!









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Hi,

I'm interested in working as an auxiliary nurse but Im not sure how to get into it.  A lot of nursing agencies I've looked at say that you need some experience of working as an auxiliary before, but i don't have any.  Does anyone know the best way to become an auxiliary?

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Hi  Maria

Please visit this link we have just had a client add a load of opportunities to start your nursing career as an auxillary nurse at

http://www.nurserve.co.uk/listing.asp?id=424

You can start be doing flexible part time work and see if you like working first.

 

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Hi

New to this! Echoing what Maria asked...I am looking at a career change and wondered about nursing. But am married with a family and don't know if I could afford to train as a nurse. Is auxiliary nursing something that can be entered from scratch? I have O Levels, A Levels and a degree.

Hope this leads to some useful info!

 

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  Quote Modette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2006 at 4:02pm
Hello Bookworm,

In my area if you have at least 5 O'levels or equivalents (CSE grade 1's) or 5 GCSE's grades A,B,C or an NVQ level 3 in healthcaring you can go straight to college or university to start a pre-registration Diploma or Degree in nursing.

Havent tried this but you may be able to look on the internet to find out which colleges, universities off nursing training.

My university also offers a part-time nursing diploma course which is extremely handy if you have children. The course is paid for by the government and also comes with a bursery or (small salary) if you like
of around £479 per month basic for mature students or more if you are a single parent.  The course is over a period of 4 years part-time or 3 years if doing the Degree (but bursery rates are lower for this). Diploma involves spending 3 days a week for 6 months 10am-3pm theory and 6 months placement at a hospital practical experience for 24 hours a week.

Also 90% of childcare costs will be paid by the government!

Very inticing if you are at home and not earning anything.

Also you can do a 6 months access to nursing course if you do not have qualifications which will give you entry to the Diploma or Degree nursing course and the opportunity fo find out if this is for you!

Hope this helps.



 

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  Quote renn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2006 at 6:13pm

hi Bookworm

i deceided on career change and looked at the university route for nursing but couldnt afford the drop in income, husband and 4 children to fund.  im teaching at the minute( working notice as we speak ) and start work as mental health nursing aux next week, with same qualifications as you

hopefully ill be able to move onto better paid position eventually and then fund uni (hopefully before im any closer to retirement age)

good luck with whatever you choose

 

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  Quote Modette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 March 2006 at 8:56pm
Bravo renn,

With 4 children, I struggle with only 3!  Good luck in your new job!  I want to go in that direction I think, so keep me posted and what with you and Karen also in mental health should be good.

See both yours and Bookworms point about a drop in income though, I suppose it depends upon how much you want a change.
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 hiya to everyone,, i think it depends on the person,, i was a healthcare assistant for ten years before doing my training,, it taught me good communication skills, and good basic nursing care,, which i found helpful while doing my training,,, HCA`s have alot to give,, and i  enjoy working with them,, as part of my team,, in a&e,, but when i started my training,, i found that there was so much i didn`t know,, i was very humbled by this,, because i thought i did,, but how wrong i was!!!!!,,, which ever route you are taking ,, i wish you well love shaz xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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  Quote Modette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 March 2006 at 1:57am
Hello Shaz,

Seen your name on here and I can tell you are recognised by this forum and by myself being a newbie!

My best friend spent 10 years as a health care assistant in orthapeadicts (not sure if spelt right) sorry, but she gained a NVQ level 3 and is now a 2nd year student nurse and doing really well.  She has told me that what she is learning now is far above what she expected!  She has 4 children and I know her to be a fantastic person with oodles of previous knowledge.

I very frequently ask her lots of questions expected of a nurse and she allways gives me the correct answer and more so!.

I have had no previous experience in healthcare, but being a mature student with 3 children I had a basic understanding of what it is to care and assist in helping those people with normal activities for daily living!

I can honestly put my hand on my heart and say that healthcare workers,assistants, auxillaries or whatever they are called in their area seem to make exceptional nurses after training and I for one would rather work alongside them anytime!

I have found in my training that healthcare assistants are the most willing and helpful members, to me as a student nurse and feel that their position is not recognised enough.

I know my post will instigate a lot of debate, but this is the way I feel at the moment.

Perhaps I should have posted this in another section of Nurserve, but I wanted you to know I am with you and agree that prior experience is an advantage.


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thanks modette,,, i think HCA`s arn`t recognised enough,,, they work so hard,, and they help student nurses alot,, i think its being part of the team that helps,,,,, hows the placement going???????i have a student at the present just putting some teaching together for her ,,, loads of love shaz xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Hey Shaz,

Please go easy on your student as I have had a hell of a rough ride recently and the worst part for me was having being put on the spot in front of other professionals!  The stuff I knew but didn't know when quizzed out of the blue like that, due to nerves I suppose!

I can guess you are the nice type and won't do that unless they are not progressing after repeated attempts at getting them to learn.

Made such a prat of myself yesterday, I had just done epidural obs and Sister asked me what was wrong with the patient?  I only asked her if her had had his lung operation

She said K***e what do you think an epidural is for? to which I replied pain! and then she said did you notice the wacking great big dressing on his back and the drain insitu?  Do you know I was so busy looking at the epidural and doing paperwork I didn't notice either (how bad is that)and that was with the Sister.

Now that's bad and it is due to being on egg shells because of being on the spot several times before and not coping with it at all well.

Stupid thing is I know this and observations are so important, it's like being in the Police force and saying what was the culprit wearing? "well officer I was so busy looking at the big boil on his nose I didn't notice anything else"



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I work in a Doctors surgery as a heathcare assistant, (NVQ level 3) and I am a qualified phlebotomist.  I work 8.45am till 1.30pm every day.  I love my job but feel a bit 'used' at the moment.  In my role I do ECG's, BP's, Stop Smoke, taking bloods, hearing tests, giving flu and pneumonia injections, note sumerising and anything else I am asked to do which can be assisting with leg doplers, coil fittings etc.  At my last appraisal I was told the surgery rewarded staff who showed a willingness to learn and attend courses that would benefit the surgery.  I went on a course to enable me to give flu and pneumonia injections.  I had to complete an NVQ unit and be assessed by two assessors, thankfully I passed.  I was responsible for organising the flu clinics which resulted in 1700 patients having their flu jabs, which was a great success ( the surgery recieved all their QUOF points (and points make prizes !!)  I went on a two day course to become a 'Stop Smoke' adviser.  I have at the moment 6 patients giving up smoking.  I received an increase of 16pence an hour ! I was not very happy to say the least.  Am I wrong to feel this way ? I have thought about doing my nurse training but I am 52 and feel it is to late (my husband says I shall be working till I am 75 so my be not) I love my job and the people I work with, the Dr's and all the others, but I feel I am being used.  I am always fully booked and on most days my appointments are double booked. I work along side a nurse and one day a week there are two nurses.  One nurse is never booked so is given patients booked for me.  As she is paid twice as much as me I feel very annoyed. Is it me???? but this really annoys me.I have written to the Doctors so they are aware I am not happy, watch this space!

Any suggestions or advice will be greatfully accepted

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Hi Angie,

you are never too late to start nurse training, I started at near 40 but many in our group were bewteen 46-54. With all the wonderful experience you have from within your work, plus life experiences, you are exactly what nursing needs. so go for it.

I never give advice over wage issues, we have enough at out place, its private unit and as qualified RMN (registered mental nurse) my wage is £7.41p.h. I know I could do agency for much more but wanted some stability in placement area, plus I move away from the area where I originally had practical placemnts and a lot of NHS jobs are 'who you know'. Still most time my reward is knowing that what I do earn is worked for and my wage goes on one of my childrens university fees, he has last 5 months of maths degree to complete, so worth it.

Me now off back to bed, cant sleep worked last 2 nights and yesterday managed 1 and half hrs kip in day, this a.m dont well had 2 hours but am wide awake. Cup hot chocolate and rest if not sleep for me.

Go for what your heart tells you Angie.

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HI YA, MODETTE I ALWAYS GO EASY ON STUDENTS I HAVE,, CAUSE I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS A STUDENT,, AND ON PLACEMENT,, IT WAS AWFUL,, IT WAS THEN I MADE A MENTAL NOTE, THAT I WOULD NEVER DO THAT,, AND I YHAVN`T!!!!!!!,,, MY STUDENT IS ENJOYING HERSELF,, WHICH I`M PLEASED ABOUT XXXXXXXXXXXXX,,,
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  Quote IdahoDennis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 March 2006 at 6:54pm

Angie

Sounda like you are one of those wonderful people who always get the job done! You tend to get used that way. Hopefully you and your doctors can reach an agreement. Sounds like the'd need 2 people to replace you, or more. Dont let age make up your mind, do want you want! Go for it!

 

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  Quote Modette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2006 at 12:16am
Angie, don't look at my recent posts!

For you I guess that you have sooo... much responsibility and are allready doing the job of a nurse but without the paper that goes with it to say you are a professional and the money also

Only advice I can offer in my position is to evaluate your personal situation and encourage you to at least try for the paper bit which means uni and assignments! Otherwise I urge you to be brave and write a letter to your line manager/trust/persons above you so they have written evidence of your position (photocopy it aswell) because lots of paperwork is often lost! if you know what I mean and ask for a review of your position and job title and what that actually means or involves

I am sure they will look at this as someone who is not prepared to put up with this nonsense any more rather than "just put it on Angie as she is allways cool or a willing to do the work we professionals are paid to do"

I am sure you will get respect and I know you deserve at least an acknowledgement that you are important to them!

Sometimes though you need to let them loose something good for them to realise how precious you are!  This does not help things in the short time for you, but maybe you would do equally as well with your experience and go for a new job?  Maybe after this you could re-apply with new experience and offer more, but on your terms if you love the job so much?


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Hi shaz,

Could have done with you being my mentor at this placement then perhaps I would have thought more than twice about giving up with my good grades and all!

Have only told you peoples on here about giving up but have telephoned placement to say I am not coming in tomorrow or anymore!  Tutors don't even know yet or friends and I am not looking forward to their response!

Don't want to be talked out of it either as my descision is not without major thought unless they could offer me a new placement and that is not going to happen sadly!
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  Quote birdy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2006 at 6:16pm

hi bookworm!!

with reply to your post about becoming a auxillary

with your qualifications why dont you just take the jump and apply at your local uni to do your diploma or degree in nursing! I was a health care assistant for ten years and i am now a 2nd year student but i wish that i has taken the plunge years ago and started my training! I also have a large family 4 kids but i study partime and i do manage to fit everything in. The bursary is not great but its better than nothing and i am studying to become i think one of the best vocations.

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 Thought I would let you all know how things are going.   I was summond by two Doctors and the practice manager into the office today !! They said they were happy with my work and appreciated my letter informing them I was not happy with my 16pence an hour pay rise.  They were not aware of the other nurses not being booked and them seeing patients that were booked with me. (Not very cost affective)  As a result the nursing appointments are being looked at. They have increased my pay rise  which was good.

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Angie

Way to go. My yearly eval is due next month, can you sit in for me, so I get a good raise?

Its great to hear that the docs agree with you!

 

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Hi,

thanks for all your help in response to my last post about getting into auxiliary nursing.  I'm trying to write my CV and a cover letter now that I can send to nursing agencies, but as I have no official qualification for auxiliary nursing I'm highlighting voluntary work I've done with caring organisations.  Has anyone got any good tips about the kind of qualities agencies are looking for in auxiliaries?

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Maria

loads of places will train you especially if its for a more pemanent post... some of teh training for agencies or bank is as you go along which can out you under a bit of pressure going to  anew place and having to learn stuff from scratch each time.

make sure the offer you a decent teaching and induction package so that you have an idea of what you are doing.

alternatively apply to a care home they are usually desperate for staff and although it might not be so techinical as youd get in a haospital it will teach you all the essentials and you will be working with teh same staff and residents in eth same environment which is good for you finding your feet.

good luck


Also somebiody up there^^^ mentioned you get 90% childcare ehlp when doing nurse training... this is actually incorrect you get up to 80% but it means tested and only those on eth lowest incomes actually get the full 80%.  Just thought id let you know incease somebody is very disappointed.
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  Quote Maria Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 March 2006 at 11:28am

hey lulu,

thanks very much- that's great advice. I'll make sure to be careful when looking at different agencies.

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  Quote bookworm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2006 at 10:57am

Hi Birdy

And others too! for the advice

I think it's just taking that initial plunge that's holding me back at the moment. I'm already in one area of work thats not doing too well - libraries - as these are being closed down due to cutbacks. And now the NHS is thinking about something similar?

Also, after spending 4 years training would there be a job at the end?...

 

 

 

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  Quote Modette Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 March 2006 at 9:39pm
Sorry Lulu for saying that 90% of childcare services would be paid for by the Government!  I  quoted 80% to a friend of mine recently and she quoted back 90% and being that she has 4 children I just assumed this was more current advice!!

 
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Hi Bookworm,

MY GOD, How we all need Libraries and you say they are closing?

I know a Librarian and she has been a fantastic person who is so knowledgeable about where to and what to find!

I for one is a person who believes that reading is the very essence of learning and strangely enough wanted to work in a Library once, untill I learned that those in this position do not actually get the chance to read all day like I had hoped!

The job at the end of training worries all of us and although the Government keeps recruiting nursing students, it seem different to what I read in the Nursing Standard about those who cannot find jobs at the end of their training

I know that there are oodles of jobs out there, but usually it means, for me at any rate, moving home, childrens schools, area of preference, issues like wages, parking and In London - the conjestion charge etc..etc...! 

Only touched lightly on the subjects that worry me, but recognise this not to be the case for all areas!

Hopefully somewone will post a better range of advantages in their area!

Whether you train now or not, Time is a very odd thing and like buying a house it can sometimes mean you make a loss or a profit?

Who knows?

Just do what you can and what seems to fit with your future goals in life!


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Originally posted by Angie

I work in a Doctors surgery as a heathcare assistant, (NVQ level 3) and I am a qualified phlebotomist.  I work 8.45am till 1.30pm every day.  I love my job but feel a bit 'used' at the moment.  In my role I do ECG's, BP's, Stop Smoke, taking bloods, hearing tests, giving flu and pneumonia injections, note sumerising and anything else I am asked to do which can be assisting with leg doplers, coil fittings etc.  At my last appraisal I was told the surgery rewarded staff who showed a willingness to learn and attend courses that would benefit the surgery.  I went on a course to enable me to give flu and pneumonia injections.  I had to complete an NVQ unit and be assessed by two assessors, thankfully I passed.  I was responsible for organising the flu clinics which resulted in 1700 patients having their flu jabs, which was a great success ( the surgery recieved all their QUOF points (and points make prizes !!)  I went on a two day course to become a 'Stop Smoke' adviser.  I have at the moment 6 patients giving up smoking.  I received an increase of 16pence an hour ! I was not very happy to say the least.  Am I wrong to feel this way ? I have thought about doing my nurse training but I am 52 and feel it is to late (my husband says I shall be working till I am 75 so my be not) I love my job and the people I work with, the Dr's and all the others, but I feel I am being used.  I am always fully booked and on most days my appointments are double booked. I work along side a nurse and one day a week there are two nurses.  One nurse is never booked so is given patients booked for me.  As she is paid twice as much as me I feel very annoyed. Is it me???? but this really annoys me.I have written to the Doctors so they are aware I am not happy, watch this space!

Any suggestions or advice will be greatfully accepted

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I read Angie's article with much interest. I work for a District Nursing Team as a Community Nursing Assistant. The CNAs also feel they do procedures and treatments for very little reward. We are, at present, appealing for a rematch with the Agenda for Change Matching Panel. At present we have been placed in Band 2. Like Angie, our work includes phlebotomy, BPs. BMs, Stoma and Catheter care, medications, pressure care, high grade wound dressings, suppositories, pessaries,collection of specimens, perform urinalysis, terminal care etc. We all have NVQ at level 3. We were told that Agenda for Change promotes equal pay for equal work. This certainly isn't the case. We all love our work and would'nt do anything else, but do wish the PCT would appreciate our efforts, just a little bit!!! 

 

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Hello Miriam!

You, Angie and others are obviously in the same boat? and can honestly say that you appear to be more qualified than me as a second year student nurse! also more so than a lot of qualified nurses (going to get thrown off probably for saying this) but at least some of the nurses I have worked with in my placements!

The Agenda for change in my opinion is the first steps at trying to introduce a fair pay that meets the work that is undertaken?  This brings me back to the issue of debate about whether a degree/diploma in nursing is more theory based with a peice of paper at the end of the course which incidently implies that one is more qualified in a certain area?

I think that what I have learnt is that to do a higher education course supposedly means more reading, study and therefore a better knowledge base even without the practice!

I totally disagree with this and know, at least in my own area of practice I would rather spend and learn from others i.e healthcare assistants, phlebotamists and others that are paid at the lower end of the pay scale because they are generally more experienced and more willing to offer their knowledge to students or anyone asking for advice such as relatives etc.. and are in a better position in that they know their patients well because they are not caught up in all the paperwork that the nurses seem to have and can spend more time with and talking to the patients as they tend to the basic activites for daily living!

I appreciate what you do and I certainly believe that there should be a short cut into the nursing certificate bit depending on the work undertaken!

Keep on with your great work and I will see you in the Forums Debating section, where I am going now to post this subject!


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Hi Renn

 

Just wondered how everything was going with new job. Hope its ok. Let me know how you get on. Which area of the country are you working in?

See you later

 

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Dear Bookworm and renn,

You obviously both have a lot in common and I also offer my hopes for renn with her new job, if she has actually got the job!

I would also be interested to know which area you are both from and only because I am such a nosey person

You two people could private pm each other and really get to know what you both think but please let us all know how you are doing and maybe that will inspire all those who look in this forum to register and post their own opinions

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  Quote bookworm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 March 2006 at 5:15pm

 

All this advice is great! But could anyone answer me just one question - where are the hospital/GP jobs to be found? I don't really want to work in a care home???...

Thanks in anticipation of results

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not being funny but get in touch with local nursing agencies and ask if they do work for hospitals etc. if not get in touch with the nursing college rnc etc and ask them.
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Smiler in disguise!

You are not being funny and I agree, but I think bookworm means jobs  such as doctors receptionist, admin or clerk for our medical teams due to her background?

Hope I have not been presumptious about the kind of work you want? If that is not so, then I am sorry and please be more specific and I am sure someone will be able to help you!

If I am wrong and you want to do nursing, then smilers advice is good or even go to your local papers job section and apply for anything remotely caring based as the first step in getting experience!

I have just applied for a post locally in transporting elderly people to their day centre and back home again.

I am a second year nursing student who has just taken 6 months time out due to ill health and I am feeling better in as much as I need a job to replace my bursery and further more it is part-time and non complicated and I like working with ederly people

Take care and I look forward to your reply!

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Hi there
Im also a HCA/Phlebotomist,and i was reading MIRIAM'S post and that she trained to do injections,could i ask where you did your training as there are 2 HCA'S in our practice and both would like to do the training.
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 April 2006 at 9:02pm
Welcome Diane,

Can I ask you where you did your phlebotomy?

I cannot accurately answer your question but I think Lulu could advise you on such matters Go to Student Life on here and look for one of her posts and then click on her link for her own website and perhaps ask the same question there if no-one answers you here?

From my own experience I think you cannot give injections unless you are a registered nurse, student nurse (with supervision)or a family carer that has been given adequate training!

I hope this helps?

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  Quote JADYKIKI Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 April 2006 at 7:41pm
Hi there PURE MAIDEN
Thankyou for answering,i was led to believe only nurses could give injections too,It was miriam that interested me about the injections as she said she was a HCA and was trained to injections and as ours is a busy practice the nurses could do with some help at flu time.
I did my phlebotomy training in house at the surgery and thought there's got to be more than this to it,so i got in touch with the ROYAL HALLAMSHIRE HOSPITAL,phlebotomy team,where i trained some more,i then was asked through our PCT if i would like to be a trainer of phlebotomists and i jumped at the chance,so myself and another phlebotomist were trained to trainer standard,and although weve done small bits of training we are now doing our first batch of five where we will train in classroom,theory and arm practice and then they will have to then work out in the community and practice till they are trained up to the standard we need,and after that they will have yearly updates and anything else we recive inbetween that they made need to know.

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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 April 2006 at 9:43pm
Originally posted by JADYKIKI

i was led to believe only nurses could give injections too,It was miriam that interested me about the injections as she said she was a HCA and was trained to injections


Yes very interesting question? Just re-read Miriams post and maybe she was also given in-house training for giving injections?

I supposed when giving injection you need to have a pharmacological knowledge aswell human physiology so maybe she has a previous background in pharmacy?

Anyway, it sounds like a great job to have, with all the varied amount of tasks that seem to mirror those of a qualified nurse! and not having to go through all the degree/diploma bit at Uni.
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I am employed by a Doctors surgery as a HCA NVQ level 3. last year I did an aditional NVQ unit on giving flu and pneumonia injections. I am allowed to give both unsupervised as long as there is a Doctor or Practice Nurse on the premises. I did the course in Semmington (Swindon area) The group which was about 15 NVQ 3's and mentors was the first ever run. After completing the unit I had to be assessed by an assessor injecting 5 patients this included questions to test my knowledge. I did most of our flu clinics on my own and pick up most of the pneumonia jabs during my day to day appointments. I have been told that there is no reason why I should not be allowed to get B12 jabs too. the Doctors and the Senior Nurse I work with are very supportive and are happy for me to learn more and send me on any courses that help me achieve more knowledge. I suppose I am cheaper than if they had to employ a G or H grade nurse, they pay me well (now) and I enjoy learning and love my job as it is so varied, i do all the bloods (I am a trained plebotomist) ecg's, BP's, medicals, I am a stop smoke adviser, audio testing, I assist with coil fittings and have just started summorising hospital letters on to patient records. I am next month booked on a day course about epilepsy and head injuries, which should be interesting...
I think the role of HCA has changed greatly and I feel we are what used to be SEN. The title of health care assistant is a bit none discript as girls working in Boots are called health care assistants??
Bring back SEN
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Welcome back Angie!! and thanks for the information!

I think SEN is a nicer name also.
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Hi,
Just new in the group. I am from the Philippines and I am a former hotel employee.I am a graduate of a 4 yr. business course. Now that healtcare profession is in demand I want to enroll again and get a course in Practical Nursing (1yr).
I am 46 yrs.old, married and with 1 kid. All I want is to get a job and go to work abroad.I am just being practical bec of the unstable situation of our govt.I want a good future for us esp. for my son. Hope to get some advice and inputs from all of you.
Here in the Phils. there are a lot of nursing students and after they graduate and pass all the govt exams they go abroad bec. of a high paying salary.
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Hi Pinay,

Welcome to Nurserve

If you go to the news section, Karen has opened a new topic for help for you and there are a few suggestions.
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Thanks Pure Maiden,
I just want to know if age maybe an X factor in the field of nursing job? I just want to be practical bec. if I enroll now and finish the course, am I still get a work at my age. I am 46 yrs. old now.
Thanks for your reply may you continue to be a blessing to us who wants to be successful in the field.
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Pinay ge is noway a factor infact it maybe a benefit with life experience and all.how are u getting on sweetie?
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  Quote smithy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2006 at 6:06pm
Hi iam new to this site but was interested to read Angies post on HCAs giving flu injections as i found this on the rcn website.

Can Health Care Assistants (HCAs) give flu jabs?

The Health Protection Agency (HPA) have recently published a document, "National Minimum Standards for Immunisation Training" which includes the statement:

"Anyone who immunises or advises on immunisation should be on a relevant professional register such as the Nursing and Midwifery Council, the General Medical Council or equivalent".

The RCN has endorsed this document and therefore must give advice accordingly.

The document can be downloaded from the HPA website: http://www.hpa.org.uk/infections/topics_az/vaccination/train ing_menu.htm

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  Quote DAVE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 June 2006 at 7:34pm
Try Colin Bannisters site WWW.HCAUK.COM Excellent site for HCA'S


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Im not 100% sure so dont quote me on this, but I believe that health care assistants can administer injections after having attended a training session.

I am also under the belief from coventry univrsities head of adult branch that the clinical skills certificate we received (havent had mine yet!!!) afer completing our clinical skills module would allow us to do the same from now on student or not.

Maybe it depends on the trust your in though.
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I completed my NVQ3 nearly 2 years ago and then did an extra unit on giving flu and pneumonia injections. The course (the first ever for HCA's) was quite in depth starting with why the jabs are given, who qualifies, who should not have the injections, statistics, technique on giving the inj, and a great deal on anaphalactic shock, egg allergy and lots more. As I have been a phlebotomist for 7+ years I was used to sticking needles in people which was half the battle! I attended the course with a mentor, our senior practice nurse. Under her supervision I gave injections and was then assessed by two assessors preparing (drawing up the pneumo inj) and giving injections to 25 patients. I then had to submit my completed unit which I passed. Last week I attended a refresher which is mandatory. last October I organised the flu clinics and we used 1700 flu vaccines so I got plenty of practice!!. I am still giving pneumonia injections to patients I see in my general appointments 'catch em when you can' The course I did was the first and the last as far as I no due to funds !!
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Angie that is fantastic!! and although Smithy did point out relevant legal evidence supported and endorsed by the RCN, it does not mean that you are not qualified to give flu jabs as a HCA!

I would like to think that HCA's have more accountability when they are at the top of their profession, but sadly most HCA's that reach this point feel they are either too old or think to themselves "is it worth all the extra training to be a registered nurse, with all the theory side of things on top" when they can almost do the job of a qualified nurse in your case?

It seems very sad that someone as qualified as you is still given the status of HCA and also in a band of pay that does not truly amount to that of a qualified 'D' grade nurse? unless you have a certificate of higher education to prove you worth!

Thankyou Angie for your information and I know that other HCA's on here will now start to question what they can and cannot achieve within their professional status!
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Dont take me the wrong way, but does being a HCA qualify you as a 'professional' ?

Im not trying to be derogatory, what i mean is there are set criteria for job's being viewed as a profession. Some may even arue that Nursing isnt really a profession as it isnt exclusive: many nursing skills are practiced by non-nurses, where as for example a 'lawyer's' skills arnt so they could argue that they were a 'proper' profession.

Just a thought, perhaps I should put this in the debate section ?
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Thankyou for that wizbix, but I do think that HCA's are in the caring'profession' and especially those that learn and achieve an NVQ certification! and should be classed as healthcare professionals.

Yes, nursing is sadly seem by some as a vocation rather than a proper profession but this is why there is need for a certificate of higher education and also to make nursing more research/evidence based:

Hockey (2000) discusses the ethos of research has been supported by the reforms of British nursing into higher education and movement towards the accreditation of a true professional status. Cormack (2000) suggests this status will only be recognised when research is evidence based and becomes integral to nursing practice.

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Hcas are an important part of the healthcare team and many areas would not function without them yet hcas are not veiwed as healthcare professionals because they do not undertake professional training.Nvqs are vocational based qualifications and not academic such as the dip /degree. As a qualified nurse i think it is important to establish that clinical skills that hcas undertake are only a fraction of what a qualified nurse does. A qualified nurse trains for three years, part of that training ensures that a nurse can assess a patients medical state without even laying a hand on the patient therefore that is what makes the difference between qualified and un-qualified nurses.
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all i can say is i am a senior hca. and have got nvq 2 and 3. i cannot become a nurse as i have discuseed on here before due to medical reasons. but i have done alot of things that nurses who are qualified do. The nurses where i worked gave me alot of their roles to due to help train me up to be a nurse. there for egiving insulin, doing dressings of pressure sores including the different grades etc.i was in charge of the residential patients and on different occasions as you say nurses have the qualifications to do i had to decide there and then whether a patient needed the doctor or 999 etc. often having to do this before notifying the nurse. in the nursing home alot of nurses woiuld not touch the residential side as they can get suspended. so in that way us senior hca's had as much respect from the doctors as the nurses did too.

i see hca's as professional. i mean the ones who have had training. im not saying those with no experience are professionals, as they have not had the experience or background of training to back up their actions.


I know of several hca's including myself who had had to save lifes. i myself performed cpr and saved a patient . some nurses unfortunatley are still not professionals in my books especially the likes of beverly allitt etc.

this is just my opinion thouhgh.
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  Quote wizbix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2006 at 7:57pm
No I think Beverly Allit is an inmate, not a professional, well maybe a 'professional inmate.'
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thats exactly my point. she was a nurse. but not a professional one.
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Yeah I think the point is you can be a member of a 'professional body' but also not practice in a 'professional' way. Though i think they ar slightly different concepts you have a good point.
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  Quote smithy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2006 at 9:53am
HCAs can be professional in the way they deliver care but are not classed as healthcare professionals as they do not undertake professional training and are not registered. These are two different meaning. Being a healthcare professional and acting in a professional manner regarding your duties. As i have said clinical skills are only a fraction of the duties of a nurse and saving lives and performing cpr does not make you a healthcare professional as many people that work in factories or shops are trained first aiders but they would not be classed as healthcare profesionals.Beverely Allitt was a healthcare professional and would have been on the ukcc register as an enrolled nurse. However as you rightly put it she did not act in a professional manner, she was still a healthcare professional.Smiler you sound like a very competent healthcare assistant and believe me when it comes to professional accountable that nurses have it is great when you have a hca you can trust to carry out duties for which the reg nurse is accountable for.
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I feel now most universities are accepting students on experience of working in care such as auxilary nurses and health care assistants I think it is important that you gain experience before joining nursing then you know a little more of what you are in for.It doesnt matter if ur great at assignments if you dont have those core caring skills you wont succeed in being a good nurse.
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hi everone this is my first time on this site. i would like some advice on becoming a bank auxiliary, as i need to make a change in my life, and do a job that i will enjoy and feel as though i am doing something worthwhile.
   i am 36 years old with 3 kids,i am a full time housewife and mother.i have no experiance in this line of work.i have worked in bar/nightclubs,packed biscuits,cleaned houses and been a fryer for a chip shop. i just dont know if i will have the balls to go through with it. i am a hard worker,can take orders and i will do anything to help out anybody if i can. i dont put up with people treating me like dirt, or if i think something is wrong i am not scared to voice my opinion,please can anyone give me advice and point me in the right direction.
      my friend has just graduated from university and she thinks i would be great at the job,but i think i would someone elses opinion and advice. if any one can help i would be most gratefull. thanks a million fifi
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  Quote Lulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 August 2006 at 12:12am
hiya fifi

try caling your local hospital trust about bank work... some hospital banks are run by a company called nhs professioanls and you will often find that tehy are not referred to as auxiallrys anymore... more often its HCA (health care assistant).

some will want experience and others dont mind and will train you up... buit you really need to contact the one near you to find out.

have you considered doing ytour nurse training? your only 36 so you never know you might be the one graduating from uni in a few years time.
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  Quote morrison Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2006 at 7:16pm
HI LULU,
     THANKS FOR THE ADVICE,AS FOR GOING TO UNI, I HAVENT GOT THE BRAINS, IM NOT STUPID, BUT ONLY GOT 3 OGRADES THAT I REMEMBER OF AND THEY WERENT IN THE MAIN SUBJECTS EITHER. PHONED MY LOCAL HOSPITAL BUT THEY ARE NOT LOOKING FOR ANYONE.CONTACTED A FEW NURSING HOMES BUT THEY COULDNT GIVE ME THE 16/20 HOURS NIGHT SHIFT THAT I WANTED. JUST HAVE TO KEEP ON TRYING. THANKS AGAIN FIFI.
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  Quote Lulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 August 2006 at 12:20am
Fifi

dont let having few qualifications put you off... many many student nurses decide later in life to consider a nursing career and they often dont have the qualifications or those qualifications they do have are out dated.

you might want to consider doing an access to nursing course... which is a very popular route to nursing.

the average age of a student nurse is 30 and there were lots of people on my course in their 30s, 40s and 50s (including me) so you still have plenty of time to decide what you want to do....

but dont feel that being a registered nurse is unachievable... i know hundreds who left school with little or no qualifications.

good luck and hope you get an HCA post somewhere to suit you. keep trying im sure something will come up.
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hi all i,m new on here been a carer for 16 years but have an interview tomorrow as a healthcare assistant at oneof mylocal hospitals any tips would be appreciated
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Hi All

Long time since I've been on here. Still just about doing my library job (waiting to hear if my branch is closing). Still trying/attempting to register for bank/part-time hca work without much success - all seem to require min of 6 months experience. ANY suggestions?
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  Quote Sarah1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 December 2006 at 1:41pm
Hi Guys!

I am really interested in becoming and Auxiliary nurse, with the hope of becoming a Nurse one day.

I am having alot of trouble finding out how to get invovled in it though.

How do i get started and what qualifications i need to do this??

How did you guys get into it??

Any info would be greatly apprieciated!

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Hi Sarah,

I have answered your post here, just click the link


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  Quote loujean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2007 at 9:43am
Originally posted by renn

hi Bookworm


i deceided on career change and looked at the university route for nursing but couldnt afford the drop in income, husband and 4 children to fund.  im teaching at the minute( working notice as we speak ) and start work as mental health nursing aux next week, with same qualifications as you


hopefully ill be able to move onto better paid position eventually and then fund uni (hopefully before im any closer to retirement age)


good luck with whatever you choose


 

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  Quote loujean Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 November 2007 at 9:54am
Originally posted by karen59

Hi Karen,


you are never too late to start nurse training, I started at near 40 but many in our group were bewteen 46-54. With all the wonderful experience you have from within your work, plus life experiences, you are exactly what nursing needs. so go for it.


I never give advice over wage issues, we have enough at out place, its private unit and as qualified RMN (registered mental nurse) my wage is £7.41p.h. I know I could do agency for much more but wanted some stability in placement area, plus I move away from the area where I originally had practical placemnts and a lot of NHS jobs are 'who you know'. Still most time my reward is knowing that what I do earn is worked for and my wage goes on one of my childrens university fees, he has last 5 months of maths degree to complete, so worth it.


Me now off back to bed, cant sleep worked last 2 nights and yesterday managed 1 and half hrs kip in day, this a.m dont well had 2 hours but am wide awake. Cup hot chocolate and rest if not sleep for me.


Go for what your heart tells you Angie.


All the best, karen

Hello Karen, I'm 41 and just change career from being an IT expert to a care assistant within my local community. I wished I'd done it years ago but better late than never. I am aiming to complete NVQ II and III then go onto Uni to aquire a nursing degree. I was wondering how long all this will take? I am very happy with my new career even though the pay is really crap and I was paid alot more in IT. It seizes to amaze me how the care of a computer is worth so much more than the care of a fellow human being!

Hello to you all as I am a new member.
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hi marie,have you managed to get into nursing yet,i hope so i am the same as you realy realy want to do this kind of work but i havent had any experince in nursing i am working on customer services at tesco,but want a change in career i am 32 married with 4 children,please pass on if you no how, i have even been onto nhs proffesinals.
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  Quote anita70 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2009 at 6:17pm
hi there i,m new to this site,
i av an interview next week for a nursing auxillary, and i'm terified.
Had a interview 4 a similar post last month and totaly cocked it up, went totaly blank and looked like the lights were on but nobody home.
i ant worked 4 14 years, but am edjucated to o level standered and also did a pre nursing course when i left school, but due to family commitments ad to stop training.i worked in a nursing home 4 5 yrs and worked my way up to senior carer.
can anyone give me advice on interview technique and how to stay calm. rely wish there was no such thinbg as interviews and i could work on a trial day and show wat i'm capable of.
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  Quote Lulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2009 at 7:01pm
have you tried contacting the people who interviewed you before for feedback of your performance.... they are the best placed people to give you advice on how to improve.

id also suggest on here not to type in txt talk as its very difficult to understand and your not limited to 169 characters LOL

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  Quote bookworm Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2009 at 9:12pm
Well, my library has finally been closed (along with 2 others) to make way for a new one in a new schhol/joint community setting but i still have not managed to find any posts for hca (or similar) in my area that does not require previous experience or nvq. Any suggestions??
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  Quote Lulu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 February 2009 at 9:24pm
have you tried nursing homes.... they are always looking for staff with or without experience or qualifications.... its a good way to get your foot in the door.
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Hi!! i've just joined and have found some of your comments interesting. I've been an auxiliary for 40yrs, love my job and wouldn't change it for the world. I'm in a large general hospital and have over the years seen staff come and go, some good, some not so good and some downright bad. I'm not going to extend my skills beyond those that are mandatory but the younger ones will i'm sure. I work hard, i'm constant nightshift and the general banter while keeping my patients safe and well makes me look forward to going in each night. A lot of the time my staff nurses can't get near a patient for attending to admin stuff.Had i wanted to work in an office i would have done just that. Stay close to your patients, you can in among some sadness get a good laugh and make the patient's stay as easy as you can eh?
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Hi everyone,

I am thinking of starting a career in nursing, starting with being an Auxillary Nurse, however could someone please advise me what if any GCSE's are needed to apply for a position. I have searched high and low but can not find the answer to my question

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