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    Posted: 08 May 2006 at 9:32am
My daughter has been suffering on and off now for almost 2 years with really heavy nosebleeds!!

Doctors have given her nasoseptum cream, but this does not appear to be working as it is a preventative rather than something to stop the bleed!

They have advised not to go for cauterisation as this is very painful and does not always work?? and maybe she will grow out of them!!

I am back to doctor this morning again!!!

Has anyone suffered with this? and if so what did you do about it and did you ever find out why you got them?

Oh, as far as I know until later her blood pressure is normal!

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  Quote isy xx Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2006 at 7:15pm
pure cautery might just do the trick...if the cream isnt working effectively you might just have to get that done....take docs advice

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  Quote elaine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 June 2006 at 11:12pm
I had them in my early teens and it was thought it was caused by stress
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2006 at 3:16pm
Sorry to drag this one back, but things are a lot worse and while we wait for the cautery, my daughter is still suffering!!! Been to hospital last night and it looks like I will be going back there today as she is weak!!

You would think that they would check her blood and give her a transfusion is she needs one????? They did not even check her blood sugar levels!!!!

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  Quote DAVE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2006 at 8:25pm
I hope everything gets sorted soon.take the Doctors advice they may refer to ENT.They are excellent people.


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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 June 2006 at 10:28pm
Thanks Dave, I have it sorted now, but it is nice of you to care!
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2006 at 2:48pm
Found this link for nosebleeds quite interesting:


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  Quote wizbix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 June 2006 at 5:50pm
Interestingly I work with a person with a learning disability that has frequent nose bleeds, he has had his cauterised several times.

Strange difference, maybe its the doctor and not the difference in patient ?
"It is never too late to give up our prejudices.." Henry D Thoreau (1854)
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2006 at 1:38am
Originally posted by wizbix

Interestingly I work with a person with a learning disability that has frequent nose bleeds, he has had his cauterised several times.Strange difference, maybe its the doctor and not the difference in patient ?


not so strange wizbix really! I allways thought that my local practice was excellent!!!!!, but looking on now I feel that money or 'budgets' are the very real reason that my daughter was not sent for cautery immediately, or that they thought that 'nose bleeds are never really very serious' just a bit messy and inconvenient!!!! Over a 2 year period and having been shipped off by ambulance to A&E from her school where the bleed stopped upon admission! and being taken to the doctors during a bleed!!!

No one professional in A&E or otherwise ever sent Charlotte for a blood test or thought very much about the real implications of blood loss i.e. amount, over what period of time or ever asked Charlotte how she really felt?

I do not offer my position as a student nurse to A&E staff, as I feel this would have biased my daughters treatment, but because i know my daughter and knew her situation to be dire i had to demand a blood test to check her heamaglobin levels!!!! only then when they got the results of the test were the staff able to say to me "Oh Mum you were so right"!!!!

I am disgusted with the treatment that my daughter recieved and more importantly the fact that I had to demand a blood test!!!!

If I did not know any better they would have sent Charlotte home again without proper treatment!!!!!

A week on and Charlotte is still breathless upon even talking and I feel sure they could have given here some blood even now and she has had to miss 6 days of school!!!!!

I am completely disgusted and more importantly feel that my daughter has missed out due to the incompetence of some healthcare professionals!!!!

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  Quote smiler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2006 at 6:36pm
i feel you need to demand your daughter is seen. i used to have nosebleeds and had tem really bad. i collapsed twice i too never had it checked out and i have grown out of them. however i suffer really bad with hayfever and allergies so can cause nose bleeds sometimes. never found out the cause though.
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  Quote DAVE Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 June 2006 at 6:48pm
Your welcome pure maiden.


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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 August 2006 at 10:27pm
Ok here is an update on another problem with Charlotte!!!!

Sorry people, but I don't quite know how it seems that my children suffer with illnesses and accidents, but hey they do a lot and maybe it is because I moan more that most about it?

Her legs are black and blue to be honest, but this does not stop the cheekyness!! I would not mind, but she did try and do things by herself after being told not too!!!

I am sure I read somewhere that boys are supposed to suffer more accidents in youth than females???

For all those that are interested to know she is fine and thankyou for your concerns, especially Flutterby!
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  Quote dgreen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 March 2007 at 3:02pm
I have a question I hope someone can answer. I hear a lot about these nose bleed clips but have never seen one or know where to get them. I have herd they have them in the hospital ER, but I would like to know how to get my hands on them. Just to be clear I am not talking about the swimming nose clips, I am talking about clips specifically designed for nose bleeds. It seems to me there is a demand for this product to be offered commercially but I cant seem to find it.
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 March 2007 at 7:54am
Hello dgreen and welcome, I have never heard of nose bleed clips to be honest ER is American so maybe we don't use them here....will have to investigate it, the idea seems logical as we pinch the nose here and it can be very tiring on the the hand.
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  Quote woodyowl Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 April 2007 at 10:34pm
Hi Pure Maiden
I can relate so much with you and your daughter, I am 23 and suffer from very regular nosebleeds. i have done since I was a toddler and Im lucky if I can go 2 weeks without 1. They can start anywhere with no patten or warning and can be v embarassing. I have collapsed once at work and had to be rushed to hospital, but I have no memory of it. They can last anything between 5 and 25 mins and normally heavy, and I feel awful after.
I dread getting dressed up incase one starts and also dreading my weeding day.

I have had my nose Cauterisation 14 times and yes it is very painful and no it didn't work.
My doctors are just saying they don't know whats wrong and sent me to hospital ENT but they didn't know either.

I hope Charlotte feels better soon
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 June 2007 at 7:46am
Thankyou woodyowl for your input here, you poor thing!!

Charlotte is cured now thankgod. Do you have your heamaglobin levels checked regulary? Charlotte also found it hard to breath,fatigued and could not take part in sports as this either set them off or she was just too plain tired to do anything!

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  Quote Eills Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2007 at 7:29pm
dgreen nose clips as you call them involve surgery and as far as I know are for serious posterior epistaxis cases. Its called endoscopic intranasal clipping of the sphenopalatine artery and is for people who packing or cautery does not work for.   Hope that helps. See students are that that bad and more often than not we are eager to please and go even further out of our way to solve issues. So if you get a student don't dismiss them. We are heavily supervised and work with in the same code of conduct at the Doc and Nurses.
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2007 at 11:02pm
Fantastic news Ellis, what and where do you practice and do you have any links that us students here in the UK can use? If not for personal reasons I am willing to read and study your research!

Thankyou! Regards Pure!
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  Quote Pure Maiden Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 July 2007 at 1:15am
Originally posted by dgreen

I have a question I hope someone can answer. I hear a lot about these nose bleed clips but have never seen one or know where to get them. I have herd they have them in the hospital ER, but I would like to know how to get my hands on them. Just to be clear I am not talking about the swimming nose clips, I am talking about clips specifically designed for nose bleeds. It seems to me there is a demand for this product to be offered commercially but I cant seem to find it.


Haha I knew it was you lol! So have you found a manufacturer for these clips? or is that your business now?

Surgery does not sound like clips, well not from your first post!
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  Quote KateC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2008 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by dgreen

I have a question I hope someone can answer. I hear a lot about these nose bleed clips but have never seen one or know where to get them. I have herd they have them in the hospital ER, but I would like to know how to get my hands on them. Just to be clear I am not talking about the swimming nose clips, I am talking about clips specifically designed for nose bleeds. It seems to me there is a demand for this product to be offered commercially but I cant seem to find it.
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  Quote KateC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2008 at 2:36pm
Originally posted by dgreen

I have a question I hope someone can answer. I hear a lot about these nose bleed clips but have never seen one or know where to get them. I have herd they have them in the hospital ER, but I would like to know how to get my hands on them. Just to be clear I am not talking about the swimming nose clips, I am talking about clips specifically designed for nose bleeds. It seems to me there is a demand for this product to be offered commercially but I cant seem to find it.


Hello Dgreen

I found your question when I was researching nosebleeds. A company I am delivering PR for at the moment are about to launch a noseclip that has been specifically designed to stop nosebleeds. It is designed and tesetd by clinicians and will be launched on April 21st 2008, in Scotland. The press release has been embargoed until that date but we are inviting health care workers from NHS and PCTs across the UK to the launch.

I am happy to send you the full press release when the embargo is lifted on April 21st. It may be that your PCT has been invited to the launch,or perhaps you and the rest of this forum could spread the world on April 21?

If I can be of assistance please let me know.

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  Quote steve Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2008 at 5:03pm
Hi Kate

Please drop me a mail regarding the above.

I can provide an account where you can post your PR articles on the nurserve website.

I am happy for you to publish here but the news section may be better.

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Hi dgreen, You can buy these clips commercially, they are called Rhinopinch and they are sold via MDTI on their web-site. Hope this helps.
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